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Fairlie's picture

Posted February 22nd, 2008 by Fairlie

All the gear, all the time
41% (21 votes)
Bespoke Armani
12% (6 votes)
Whatever I find on the floor
22% (11 votes)
Hawaiian Shirt, Stubbies and Jandles
14% (7 votes)
A bunch of stuff I bought at The Warehouse
4% (2 votes)
Nuthing but a Helmet and a Stupid Grin
8% (4 votes)
Total votes: 51
Depends.......

While I know that I should always wear the correct gear and more often than not, will do so, it is also nice on a warm sunny day, to wear a short sleeved shirt and open faced helmet to go and buy some bread!!

Eddie The WOP's picture
Posted by Eddie The WOP on Sat, 23/02/2008 - 09:15
and besides...

You have better situational awareness with an open-faced helmet. Having said that I often wonder what percentage of bike crashes result in facial injuries?

Posted by gt200 on Fri, 07/03/2008 - 18:48
I try...

...to wear all the gear all the time, but I'm with Eddie that there are just some times that it's great to be a bit more open to the elements.

Riskier, yes: fun, definitely.
Risk v reward I reckon.

AndyE's picture
Posted by AndyE on Sun, 09/03/2008 - 15:50
huh?

Fall off on your face with an open-face helmet and you can kiss your life goodbye. While it's "more liberating" and does feel "free and easy" with minimal gear, all you need is one twat to not look at an intersection and it's all over. Fly over the handlebars at any speed and you'd struggle to prevent your face from hitting the ground.
i've always thought that city riding = full face helmet. more chance of coming off due to some dick who got their license from a weet-bix packet. Open road = not as many dicks to avoid, but fall with an open-face helmet and your face will be toast. not fun.

More situational awareness with an open-face? Turn your head around more then.

wear a fckn fullface helmet and some decent kicks! The number of twats i've seen wearng jandals and the like is crazy. You dunno what's gonna be around the next corner.

if you're gonna dress half-naked, then at least do it in a gold thong or something so that people will see you and stay away (unless you're down in Ponsonby then you might get a real night out) or give some of us something to laugh at while we're driving our SUVs and absent-mindedly swerve into your lane...

vespasuper69's picture
Posted by vespasuper69 on Sun, 09/03/2008 - 22:41
Agree

My personal preference is a full face.  I can see the advantage of an open face and having more peripheral vision but full face gets my vote everytime.

Yes it screws your make up in the morning (guys, you just wouldnt understand) and hat hair is a morning trial.

Steel caps to protect those toesys too!

Cheeky Hobson's picture
Posted by Cheeky Hobson on Mon, 10/03/2008 - 15:32
another bonus

is with the visor down on a full face you can mostly avoid the clouds of black exhaust from the Remuera Taxi in front!!

Go the Warriors !!

Jennie A's picture
Posted by Jennie A on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 06:04
it is a decade old

it is a decade old discussion of percentage of risk - accident safety versus accident prevention

proven fact is that a full face helmet is much safer when having and accident (although with scooters the majority of impact is on elbow, shoulder colrbone...)

but also proven fact is that accident prevention is a big factor - low weight of a open face helps to move your head , wider visor opening gives more vision and the free chin helps the visor from not fogging up

So obviously there is no right from wrong ... otherwise either lid would be forbidden, at least in those countries with a high lawsuit risk.

The hybrid helmets offer a ok-ish solution for the people who just DO want a bit more freedom .. they are open face but with more head enclosure and with a visor... this gives at least some protection at impact (given it is not a supercheap unit)

for the riders with a bit more $ to spend: get a flip top lid .... in stop and go trsaffic and down Ponsnobby road you can flip it up like a openface.. and fold it down for motorway and south auckland

 

"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"

Goetz's picture
Posted by Goetz on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 07:19
One thing I don't like about full face

few have sunvisors. I stuck a strip of tape at the bottom of my visor to work as a sun visor but the problem with this idea is that every once in awhile the wind from a passing truck blows it down half way and I have to scramble to lift or lower it so I can see. The other thing is that if you have it down it warms your face. The weight of it and the windage are other reason why I prefer an open face. I know the dangers of the open face but I use both and with a windscreen I prefer the open face for ride enjoyment. It is like a convertable car in my mind. Although more dangerous should you roll, some would say that it puts the fun back into driving. When touring I use the full face and around town or short rides and some tours the open face. We didn''t have seat belts when I was a kid. We never wore bicycle helmets and no one from my town suffered any head injuries. However I would never let my kids, if I had any, do any of these things and I feel naked if my seat belt is not done up. Life is risky we can try and eliminate some of them but sometimes I prefer not to and usually this is when I feel most alive. I think the ultimate helmet would be one with a half bar that would run from one side and stop at your chin so halffull or half open a little lighter but have chin protection.I saw something like this in a race car but I think the bar was to hold his microphone.

snakebike's picture
Posted by snakebike on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 07:38
beside this helmet

beside this helmet discussion

 

WEAR GLOVES  !!!!!

 

ALWAYS !!!!!

 

 

"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"

Goetz's picture
Posted by Goetz on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 07:41
another type of helmet

might be an open face with a bar like grid iron football players have. This way you would have the protection but still have enough open space to see and not feel so closed in.

snakebike's picture
Posted by snakebike on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 07:50
just like Jack Nicholson in

just like Jack Nicholson in "Easyrider"

nick, nick , nick ....aaaahhhhrrrggghhh

 

 

"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"

Goetz's picture
Posted by Goetz on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 07:54
Skin Vrs Road=

....No Contest.  I always wear boots,gloves, leathers etc but riding a classic I wear an open face, and a fullface  when on my Vespa.

With an open face I feel more at risk and ride like a nanna, which is fine on an old scoot. But I notice when using the fullface I ride way more aggressively, isolation from the enviroment I think. I've been around long enough to make an informed decision but I cringe at newbies with open shoes no gloves and shorts. I wonder what the nice salesman told them about safty gear?

Ron's picture
Posted by Ron on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 15:06
Mmmm

I've been a bit naughty lately and have been tackling the motorway from Hobson St to Gillies Ave (and to Ellerslie if Im feeling more adventureous) *yes Jennie, you would be so proud* ......and there is a young man on a large Kawasaki motorbike that rides around the same time as me that wears a pair of jandals, some boardshorts on and a full face helmet.  I get the feeling once he got the bike, he couldnt afford a shirt.

Thats it. I cringe everytime.

OMG

Cheeky Hobson's picture
Posted by Cheeky Hobson on Wed, 12/03/2008 - 16:22
You would have to be a moron

You would have to be a moron to wear jandels (sorry Rex) - I once saw a photo of a guy who put his foot down wearing jandels and the thong had pretty much halved his foot

 

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Fairlie's picture
Posted by Fairlie on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 08:04
worst thing I ever saw

was a guy on a motorbike with only helmet and shorts, no shoes shirt or even gloves, he was just about managing to get it on the stand before he went into the local pool club

Go the Warriors !!

Jennie A's picture
Posted by Jennie A on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 08:21
Asia...

Clearly you folk have not been the certain Asian countries and cities such as Bangkok.  The best one I saw was a family of 4, Dad, Mum, son and baby, all on the scooter, no helmets, baby was asleep in Mum's arms and going like hell!

The traffic, for the "less travelled" is awful, with lunatic taxi drivers, trucks all over the place and the occasional rickshaw to avoid.  Fun!!

Eddie The WOP's picture
Posted by Eddie The WOP on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 10:32
I see from this (albiet old

I see from this (albiet old and american) study - http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr/hurt.html - that most accidents happen close to home, full face helmets are good and limitation of peripheral vision not that signifigant.

Very worrying is the percentage of groin injury accidents. Are kevlar reinforced y-fronts on the market yet?

Ali's picture
Posted by Ali on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 12:44
When I ride I wear Rex

When I ride I wear
Rex McIntosh - Wednesday, 26 March, 2008 - 09:10

Silver Kiwi That's ok Craig, I know I'm an idiot, at times, but crossing the Canturbury plains, mid summer 38 degrees, full kit is just too hot, so one makes allowances. Generally I'm well-dressed, without the golden thong. That would be fun!! Both crashes I've had in Italy on my SS 185, my windscreen helped me from doing a long distance flight down the road. Just ended up on bonnets with it wrapped around my waist! Had no helmet in thoses days, not compulsory, makes one shudder (1966) to think I survived with just cuts and cracked bone. Dress to the situation and conditions, I say.

ice's picture
Posted by ice on Wed, 26/03/2008 - 16:57
I agree with VS69 on this point

There are crap loads of idiots out there with a licence from a cornflakes packet. One f-wit cut me off large once upon a time and forced me to throw myself into the side of a car then face first into the bonnet leaving a hefty dent from my helmets chin - then roll/slide down the hard black top for about 5m or so. I was wearing a full face helmet and this just the decider to not buy an open face... ever!

But this is just me, I will not push my beliefs on others. Ride how you feel like riding but be aware of the dangers. My head, my choice.

UberRhys's picture
Posted by UberRhys on Mon, 10/03/2008 - 07:59
or like anthony hopkins in

or like anthony hopkins in silence of the lambs

Ali's picture
Posted by Ali on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 08:20
Flip lid

Can agree with this, just got a flip lid and think it's great makes me wonder why I didn't get one before - Oh yeah the cost was exorbitant, but they seem to have started to come down in price now!

 

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Peter A's picture
Posted by Peter A on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 11:28
"not with those shoes, mate"

"not with those shoes, mate" - i have to use this line quite often when some dude asks for a test ride, wearing just jandals.

oh - and "V-Moto" is advertising V-Moto Jandals, shorts and t-shirts in the last nationwide Scoot magazine !!!  that is just SO great ....

"if it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"

Goetz's picture
Posted by Goetz on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 15:35
that is real naughty!!!

 he is in jandals and shorts .... what are you wearing???

snakebike's picture
Posted by snakebike on Wed, 12/03/2008 - 16:47
hey Jennie you have lived a pretty sheltered life

if that is the worst thing you ever saw lol...

snakebike's picture
Posted by snakebike on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 08:32
Luck most scoots are step-through ehhh

Luck most scoots are step-through ehhh. No tank to get in the way when you stop in a hurry.

UberRhys's picture
Posted by UberRhys on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 12:53
or Jason in Friday the 13th...

or Jason in Friday the 13th...

UberRhys's picture
Posted by UberRhys on Tue, 11/03/2008 - 11:49
.....

Usually my superwoman jumpsuit.

Cheeky Hobson's picture
Posted by Cheeky Hobson on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 13:57
Are you armed...

Are you armed with bulletproof bracelets, magic lasso, and Amazonian training as well?

UberRhys's picture
Posted by UberRhys on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 14:47
Why Rhys

Of course!

Cheeky Hobson's picture
Posted by Cheeky Hobson on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 14:51
What about her tiara?

What about the tiara? Do you swap that out when you put your full face helmet on?

UberRhys's picture
Posted by UberRhys on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 14:54
with all those extras stuffed in there

wouldn't that ruin the overall look of that pink and purple spandax jump suit....you may need all that stuff in the event that the planet came under fire but for your everyday commute, although it could be argued not as safe, I would stick to clean lines.  

snakebike's picture
Posted by snakebike on Thu, 13/03/2008 - 15:11
IMHO it doesn't matter the

IMHO it doesn't matter the percentage, it only has to happen once.

Denz's picture
Posted by Denz on Fri, 15/05/2009 - 15:49
except for summer...

I drop my armoured trousers and just my draggins if it's warm and dry and I am only travelling to the super market.

Denz's picture
Posted by Denz on Fri, 15/05/2009 - 15:44